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CRAY: WE WILL BE BACK IN 2005
by Tom Tabor, Publisher
Cray Inc. has said it will have the HPC industry's strongest product portfolio
in 2005. The company reported disappointing financial results for the second
quarter, but expects to return to profitability in early 2005. HPCwire's
publisher, Tom Tabor, asked Cray President and CEO Jim Rottsolk and Pete
Ungaro, vice president of marketing and sales, for an update on the company's
product plans and financial outlook.
Tom Tabor: Cray was rather profitable throughout 2003. Then you reported a
2004 second-quarter loss of about $54 million. Although you said you expect to
be profitable again early next year, what happened exactly?
Jim Rottsolk: The main issue has been a substantial slow-down in defense
spending that heavily affects 2004 revenue for our current Cray X1 product.
The good news is that we've continued to win major contracts for our next-
generation products from customers like Sandia, Oak Ridge, the Ohio
Supercomputer Center and others. Our order backlog jumped to $126 million at
the end of the second quarter, compared to $75 million at the end of the first
quarter.
TT: What's the financial picture beyond 2005?
RJ: In the years beyond 2005, we'll see the full effect of our three product
lines: the Cray XD1, which targets the small/mid-range HPC market; other Red
Storm-based systems; and the Cray X1E. Needless to say, we're pretty excited
about our prospects. I won't be more specific than that.
TT: You're reducing your cost structure by about 20 percent, including a
workforce reduction. How will that affect product development?
RJ: While workforce reductions are always difficult, we're confident it won't
have a major impact. The reality is, we're very far along in the development
process for all three next-generation products-the X1E, Red Storm and the XD1.
Some very talented people who helped get us to this point will no longer be
with the company, and that's something I regret, but we still have the HPC
industry's deepest reservoir of talent, including our new colleagues from the
former OctigaBay, which is now called Cray Canada. On a one-by-one basis,
we're also continuing to hire some of the top talent in the industry.
TT: Can you be more specific about the product development schedule?
RJ: Sure. With our next-generation vector product, the Cray X1E, we've
experienced a delay mainly from a supplier, so we'll start shipping a bit
later than planned, but we still expect the Cray X1E first customer shipment
to happen by the end of 2004. We're now bringing up the first phase of the Red
Storm system in our labs. We've sold Red Storm-based systems to five
customers, including Oak Ridge and Pittsburgh, and are seeing strong
additional demand for that product. The former OctigaBay product, now called
the Cray XD1, is ahead of schedule. We now expect to see initial revenue from
that product in late 2004, instead of early 2005. We've already started to
announce Cray XD1 orders. There's very strong interest in this product, which
as you know starts at under $100,000 and is strongly differentiated from the
Linux clusters and SMPs that are available in its price range.
TT: Can you say more about the status of the former OctigaBay product and how
that acquisition is coming along?
Pete Ungaro: We have brought in the OctigaBay system as a full-fledged member
of the Cray product family and we call it the Cray XD1. The integration of
the two companies has gone really well and the teams are already collaborating
together to make all of our products stronger and integrate the best of each
product into our future roadmap. As I said earlier, the XD1 is ahead of its
original schedule and we already have beta systems at multiple user sites.
We're starting to get good advance order momentum, even before we officially
roll out this product. We plan to report some early results for the Cray XD1
system at the September HPC User Forum meeting in Tucson, so I'll hold off on
the particulars till then. Suffice it to say we're very excited about the
Cray XD1 product, as well as the upcoming Red Storm and Cray X1E products.
TT: So, you still believe Cray will have the strongest product offerings in
the HPC industry starting in 2005? What about the competition?
RJ: Almost all vendors today address the HPC market with cluster products that
began their lives as collections of general purpose business servers, rather
than single, scalable systems purpose-built for HPC workloads. When you try to
bundle together separate computers like this, interprocessor communications,
system integration and system administration can become really challenging and
add a lot to the cost of ownership. So even though the initial pricing of
clusters might seem attractive, the amount of real work you can accomplish for
the same money is typically much less than with a purpose-built HPC system.
TT: How does Cray's approach compare with this?
PU: We have the exact opposite approach. Instead of trying to scale up
commercial systems, we bring the power and technology of purpose-built
supercomputers to the broader HPC market, starting from under $100,000 on up
to the largest systems in the world. In 2005, we'll have a range of purpose-
built HPC products for customers to choose from. We'll have real choices
specifically built for HPC customers. Two of the products, the Red Storm-
based system and the Cray XD1, will use open and economical Opteron and Linux
technologies, combined with Cray high-bandwidth, low-latency interconnects and
integrated software (the ingredients of our secret sauce) in purpose-built HPC
architectures. The Cray X1E is a substantial upgrade to our current Cray X1
vector MPP system and will push high bandwidth computing to a new
price/performance level.
TT: How much faster will the new Cray products be than competing products?
PU: Again, I don't want to get ahead of the early results we'll be talking
about in Tucson-and they will only be early results-but I think we're going to
see stellar performance on meaningful benchmarks, and even more so on
challenging real-world applications. The Cray X1 is the only U.S.-made
supercomputer that's proven to be in the same class as the Earth Simulator. We
announced a while ago that on a climate application at Oak Ridge, the X1 was
actually 50% faster than the Earth Simulator on a per-processor basis. The
successor Cray X1E system is going to raise that performance leadership bar
considerably. When you design systems with a strong balance of fast
processors, fast interconnect and fast I/O, as Cray does, you're going to get
industry-leading performance. This is what Cray as a company is all about.
TT: What impact do you think the Cray product line-up will have on the HPC
market?
PU: In recent years, makeshift HPC systems-clusters made up of business
servers-have taken much of the HPC market share. I think we'll see that
powerful trend begin to reverse, now that purpose-built HPC systems are
incorporating economical COTS technologies and people are learning how
difficult it can be to extract the theoretical processing power out of
clusters and make them run efficiently on real workloads. A good example of
this reversal is Red Storm, which is going into Sandia, Oak Ridge, the
Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center and some other places we haven't named yet.
The Cray XD1 is also winning business around the world that in most cases
would have gone to standard Linux clusters a year ago, because there were no
good alternatives in that price range. The reversal won't happen overnight,
but it's interesting to see this shift in HPC market dynamics. HPC customers
are really starting to see the value, once again, in systems architected from
the ground-up for their demanding problems.
TT: Where does Cray's vector line fit into this picture?
RJ: As you might expect, Cray has a long-term commitment to vector processing.
We believe that for an important range of problems there's no substitute for
very high bandwidth vector processing. We're targeting increasingly powerful
vector capabilities as far out as our product roadmap currently goes. Many of
our Cray X1 contracts have upgrade paths to these follow-on systems. We're
very excited to see what the Cray X1E and its successors will do for
customers.
TT: What about the new HPC Challenge benchmark versus the Top500's Linpack and
other tests? How important to Cray is the battle of the benchmarks?
RJ: As a rule, the tougher and more comprehensive the benchmarks, the better
Cray systems do. The TOP500 list and Linpack are useful to produce a census
of HPC systems based on processor performance, but as Jack Dongarra has
repeatedly said, no single test can accurately reflect the overall performance
of HPC systems. Looking at processor performance in isolation from other
system attributes has its limitations. We think the HPC Challenge suite,
which includes Linpack, is far more valuable as a high-level benchmark. So do
some of our most important customers. We're pleased that the Cray X1 turned
in the strongest overall performance of any HPC system on the HPCC suite. The
IDC Balanced Rating is another helpful high-level benchmark suite. Clearly,
though, we build our systems for real customer application performance, not
kernel-level benchmarks.
TT: Who do you see as your major competitors?
PU: There are a number of vendors who are formidable competitors mainly
because of their size and resources, but our biggest competitor is the status
quo in the HPC industry. Theoretical peak performance and Linpack-based
rankings still carry too much weight in many customers' decision-making
models, mostly because they are easy to calculate and understand. We find
end-users having to spend a lot of time modifying their applications to fit
commodity clusters, instead of pushing the bounds of engineering and science.
We are striving to build fundamentally different systems that deliver real
value to our customers around the world. That said, I'd add that it is great
that programs like the U.S. DARPA High Productivity Computer Systems program
are pushing for usability and on areas like more programming model options so
the HPC industry can get past some of these current status quo limitations
found in the typical cluster. We're really excited to be part of this program
with our Cascade project and take usability to heart with all of our products.
TT: What keeps you up at night?
RJ: The thought that the HPC industry might not break out of its current
technological stagnation, that the lesson of the Earth Simulator might be
forgotten. Cray's reason-for-being is to innovate, to create better and better
HPC tools so users can advance their science and engineering work. Clusters
are not very innovative.
PU: I'd agree with that. We're already seeing the "machoflops" race heating
up again, with vendors touting the peak performance or Linpack performance of
large-scale systems, with little or no reference to sustained performance on
real applications. At Cray, we're keeping our eyes on the real prize, which
is helping customers to do better science and engineering. Our
supercomputers are fundamentally different and exciting, purpose-built for the
HPC customer. HPC users include some of the world's most creative scientific
and engineering minds. It's going to be great seeing the new insights they can
achieve, and the rapid progress they can make, with our powerful new tools.
That's what we live for at Cray.
TT: Thank you, Jim and Pete. Any final comments?
RJ: It's a very exciting time in the HPC market. We're proud of Cray's
heritage as "the supercomputer company", and we're excited about the market
prospects ahead of us. Thank you for the opportunity to address the readers
of HPCwire.
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